Kim Gordon, formerly of Sonic Youth, is talking the rise of grunge and pivotal album Nevermind in a new interview. Nevermind was released 25 years ago this month and Gordon is also reminiscing on her time touring with Nirvana in the summer of 1991. It was Nirvana’s most successful album and released on Sept. 24 of that year.

Sonic Youth took Nirvana on tour shortly before the album was released, which Dave Markey chronicled in his documentary 1991: The Year Punk Broke.

Entertainment Weekly noted an interview from the documentary, where Gordon commented on the tour, saying that “it was so funny, because not many people knew who they were and they were playing first. It’s so hard to play in the daylight and be the first band. But at all those gigs, Nirvana would go wild and Kurt would go down into the audience.”

Gordon further expressed how the success of the album may have been tied to the mainstream being so impenetrable, saying that Nirvana was far more commercial. She noted that the founder of Lollapalooza, Perry Farrell, credited Nirvana with paving the way for “something called alternative music.”

“It just set the stage for Nirvana, they solidified that idea,” Gordon said. “So there were other bands from Seattle… you know, people get lumped in. There was Bush and bands that had his big sound. Every kid wanted to be Kurt Cobain for a while.”

Back in June, it was reported that Gordon was bitten by a coyote in the parking lot of a Whole Foods grocery store, but the report turned out to be false. To dissuade fans from thinking the worst, Gordon took to her Twitter to discount the rumors that she had been bitten.